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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: WotLK Talents Reply with quote

Because come on, how could I resist trying out a build that lets me dual wield 2 handed weapons? I left out 2Handed Mastery because I'd only take that talent upon confirmation that it benefits a Titan's Grip build. Even then... eh, I don't know. 5% damage is awesome, but those talent points could certainly go elsewhere, as well.

This build is a varient of the old "Samhaine" build - not specifically PvP, PvE, or Raid, but dipping into the talents of each so that I could do whatever I wanted in a pinch.

Warrior Talents
Minimum Required Level: 80
Required Talent Points: 71

Arms Talents - 17 point(s)

# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Iron Will - rank 3/3
# Improved Thunder Clap - rank 2/3
# Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
# Impale - rank 2/2
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3

Fury Talents - 52 point(s)

# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
# Improved Cleave - rank 3/3
# Piercing Howl - rank 1/1
# Commanding Presence - rank 1/5
# Improved Execute - rank 2/2
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Intensify Rage - rank 2/3
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Improved Berserker Rage - rank 2/2
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Precision - rank 3/3
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
# Furious Attacks - rank 1/2
# Improved Berserker Stance - rank 4/5
# Heroic Leap - rank 1/1
# Rampage - rank 1/1
# Bloodsurge - rank 3/3
# Unending Fury - rank 5/5
# Titan's Grip - rank 1/1

Protection Talents - 2 point(s)

# Tactical Mastery - rank 2/3

And here is the classic "Samhaine", updated for the WotLK Beta Talents.
Warrior Talents
Minimum Required Level: 80
Required Talent Points: 71

Arms Talents - 25 point(s)

# Deflection - rank 5/5
# Iron Will - rank 3/3
# Improved Thunder Clap - rank 2/3
# Improved Overpower - rank 2/2
# Anger Management - rank 1/1
# Impale - rank 2/2
# Deep Wounds - rank 3/3
# Justified Killing - rank 2/2
# Mace Specialization - rank 5/5

Fury Talents - 44 point(s)

# Cruelty - rank 5/5
# Unbridled Wrath - rank 5/5
# Piercing Howl - rank 1/1
# Commanding Presence - rank 4/5
# Improved Execute - rank 2/2
# Enrage - rank 5/5
# Intensify Rage - rank 2/3
# Death Wish - rank 1/1
# Improved Berserker Rage - rank 2/2
# Flurry - rank 5/5
# Precision - rank 3/3
# Bloodthirst - rank 1/1
# Furious Attacks - rank 1/2
# Improved Berserker Stance - rank 3/5
# Heroic Leap - rank 1/1
# Rampage - rank 1/1
# Bloodsurge - rank 2/3

Protection Talents - 2 point(s)

# Tactical Mastery - rank 2/3

Oh yes, that's where all the love is. I'm really not certain if losing Titan's Grip would, in this case, be worth Mace Spec (it sure as hell was when losing Rampage), but this build is certainly where my heart is. Disbelievers are such because they've never seen a Fury barbarian roguetanking everything in sight, whlie swinging with something like a 1.0 Mainhand and a 0.7 offhand speed.

Anyways, that's the random news from the front. Back to you, JoAnn.

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Virinus



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calculations done on Titans Grip so far show results you wouldn't believe (because they're strange more than anything).

Basically it makes your auto-attacks do less damage overall for the most part but equalizes slightly if you have ongoing bleed effects based on weapon damage. The really interesting thing was that it results in less threat generation because your instant attacks carry a lot more bang but the remaining damage is more spread out. This is secondhand information that I got from the EJ forums but makes sense as of the last build I saw.

I was also taking a look at your build here and wanted to mention some tasty info for ya.

First of all...Dual Wield Specialization is awesome in a massive way for PVE damage (you still shouldn't really be using fury for PVP but if you DO it's awesome there as well). Since your white damage is such a large part of your DPS it's a fat increase in DPS. You aren't looking for the huge damage on your abilities as much as with an arms build.

For PVE you'd want weapon mastery, full-on Improved Berserker Stance, unending fury, and you could toss the furious attacks and heroic leap.

Other than that your choices all come down to figuring out if you want to focus on the PVP or PVE. I'm still torn on fury in PVP and they're making some changes to make it more viable but Arms will probably still be the champ especially with the new stuff they have in their tree. What you have is a nice hybrid and without looking at it in action I have no idea how it will play out but these new trees do make me glad I wasted enough of my life to have 30 70's =)
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Ezalia



Joined: 28 Jun 2006
Posts: 111
Location: Akron, Ohio

PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A warrior stun/silence-fucked me in beta.
True that I was playing a priest at the time as a spec that was all too foreign to me...
but I thought that might make you smile...
since he was prot.

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